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Parsable information
Illustration type:	Cosmological
Quire:	H
Page in quire:	B
Currier language:	unknown
Currier hand:	unknown
Has non-Voynich text:	no
Has key-like sequence:	no
Has extraneous writing:	no

Descriptive comments

Last edited on 1998-10-09 02:36:50 by stolfi

Identification

Identification
Title:	"The 4 times 17 sequence"
Page:	f57v = HB (Rene) = p112 (Stolfi)
Folio:	f57
Panels:	f57v
Bifolio:	bH1 = f57+f66
Quire:	H (Rene) = VIII (Beinecke)

Attributes

Attributes
Language:	B (Currier)
Hand:	2 (Currier)
Subsets:	C (Rene), cos (Stolfi)
Subject:	cosmological
Colors:	tan (Reeds)

Description

A circular diagram.

Eight concentric mechanically drawn circles delimit four text rings, which are divided into 4 quadrants by straight lines in the NE, NW, SW, and SE directions. The lines are drawn with ruler, but do not quite meet at the center (They may be modern additions to the copy). there is an isolated word outside the outer circle.

At the center is a simple rosette, with 4 short and 4 long rounded lobes, with a circle and a dot in the middle.

Inside the inner circle there are four naked human figures, visible from the chest up, heads towards the center. Two are male, two female; two are seen mostly from the front two mostly from the back; two have both arms raised, two have only one. Here are the combinations:

North:  male,   back,  two arms straight in "V".
West:   female, front, one arm straight at 45 degrees.
South:  female, back,  two arms straight in "V".
East:   male,   front, one arm forward then bent up, holding a ball.

There are 8 words inside the inner circle. Four of them radiate from the rosette, roughly along the diagonal lines. The other four are tangential (but with straight baselines), to be read in the clockwise direction; it is not clear whether they label the four figures, or the spaces between them.

Comments

Transcriptions

All transcriptions are given in basic (lowercase) EVA. Use the extractor to get transcriptions in another format.

Unit: "Single word outside circle, just clockwise of the NW radial line."

Last edited on 1998-08-07 15:03:23 by stolfi

"V" transcription by J.Grove
"U" transcription by J.Stolfi from unidentified scan.

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.T.1;H>

dairol=

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.T.1;U>

dairal=

John Grove:

<f57v.T.1;V>

dairol=

Unit: "Outer band of text, starting from the NW line."

Last edited on 1998-12-08 02:17:07 by stolfi

"V" transcription by J.Grove
"U" transcription by J.Stolfi from unidentified scan.

The "peeeee" may be "pe.ee.e.e"

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.R1.1;H>

v. sa. l. y. soeos. vs. ar. okees. o. d. socfchees. lg. sos. okey. defo. fo. rkedam. sh. ofol. sar. ddal. yty. s. y. daiis. oteo. dsh. dy. dkals. ety. fchcho. a. r. ofaiin. dal. karody. ar. okchy. daram. qokar. okal. okal. d. o. l. shkeal. dydas. o. k. sher. saiin.

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.R1.1;U>

v. sa, l, y. saear. v, r. yr. okees. a. d. roefchees. l, m. sor. okey. defo. f, o. rkedam. sh. ofol. rar. ddal. yty. s. y. daiir. otey. dshdy. dkalr. oty. peoch*. a. r. opaiin. dal. karody. v, r. okeey. daram. qokar. okal. okal. d. o. l. shkeal. dydchs. o, k. sher. saiin.

John Grove:

<f57v.R1.1;V>

v. sa. l. y. saeeos. vs. ar. okees. o. d. soefchees. ld. sos. okey. defo. f. o. rkedam. sh. ofol. sar. ddal. yty. s. y. daiir. otey. dshdy. dkalr. oty. peeeee. a. r. opaiin. dal. karody. vr. okeey. daram. qokar. okal. okal. d*. o. l. shkeal. dydchs. o. t. sher. saiin.

Unit: "Second ring of text (17 character sequence X 4), clockwise from NW"

Last edited on 1998-12-24 21:06:14 by stolfi

"V" Transcription by John Grove, edited by J.Stolfi
"U" transcription by J. Stolfi from unidentified scan.

Asterisks are "weirdoes".  Note that the repetition
is not perfect:
"I" in the first period becomes "c" in the rest,
"j" in the first period becomes "m" in the rest,
"f" in the first two periods becomes "d" in the other two.

&169 = "Lo^" with "o" above the "L"
&170 = like "h" with top detached
&171 = gallows with three loops
&172 = upside-down lambda
&I   = first half of "ih"

The {|} marks the period boundaries
First period:

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.R2.1;H>

o- l- d- r- v- x- k- k- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- k- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- k- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&169}- *{&171}- y- c- r- n-

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.R2.1;U>

o- l- j- r- v- x- k- m- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- *{&I}- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}-

John Grove:

<f57v.R2.1;V>

o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- *{&I}- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- f- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}- {|}o- l- d- r- v- x- k- m- p- *{&169}- t- r- *{&170}- *{&171}- y- c- *{&172}-

Unit: "Third ring"

Last edited on 1998-12-08 02:21:13 by stolfi

"V" transcription by John Grove
"U" transcription by J. stolfi from unidentified scans.

&172 = upside down lambda

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.R3.1;H>

daiin. otey. ofchey. shes. o. d. okchod. o. l. okeeol. dkedar. of. aros. s. y. chedaiin. k. echty. x. doedal. vo. tchor. cs. tedas. dal. *{&172}. daiin. aiin. otyl. daro. v=

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.R3.1;U>

daiin. otey. ofchey. shes. o. d. okchod. l. o. lkeeol. dkedar. o, f. aros. r. y. chedaiin. k. chety. x. docodal. vo. tchor. sh. tedar. dal. *{&172}. daiin. aiin. otal. daro. v=

John Grove:

<f57v.R3.1;V>

daiin. otey. ofchey. shes. o. d. okchod. l. o. lkeeol. dkedar. of. aros. r. y. chedaiin. k. chety. x. docodal. vo. tchor. sh. tedar. dal. *{&172}. daiin. aiin. otal. daro. v=

Unit: "Inner ring of text, clockwise from the wide NW gap."

Last edited on 1998-12-08 09:59:07 by stolfi

"V" translation by John Grove
"U" tranlation by J. stolfi from unidentified scan.

Weirdos:

&170 = like "h" with top detached (#13 of the 17-element sequence)
&171 = gallows with three loops (#14 of the 17-element sequence)
&I   = first half of "ih" (#16 of the 17-element sequence)
&^   = top half of "y"

The notation {#NN} means item NN of the 17-element sequence, i.e. <f57v.R2.NN;V>

The first "o" actually lies just before the NW radial line

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.R4.1;H>

o. v. l. r. m. aiin. d. *{&170}. c. f. s. y. l. k. x. l. r. *{&171}. ar. o. s. *. t. l. s. d. y. ar. teodar. otodar. sheky. otchody. xsl=

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.R4.1;U>

o. v. l. r. m. aiin. d. *{&170}. c{&I}. f. r. y. l. k. x. l. r. *{&171}, ar. o, r. *{&^}. t. l. s. d. y. d, ar. teodar. otadal. sheky. otchody. x. r. l=

John Grove:

<f57v.R4.1;V>

o. v. l. r. m. aiin. d. *{&170}. c. f. s. y. l. k. x. l. r. *{&171}ar. o. r. *. t. l. s{?}. d. y. dar. teodar. otadal. shckyoteeody. x. r. l=

Unit: "Labels: human figures inside inner circle"

Last edited on 1998-12-08 09:22:28 by stolfi

"V" transcription by John Grove
"U" transcription by J.Stolfi from unidentified scan

southern side facing away

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.X.1;H>	olkchdal=
<f57v.X.2;H>	oparairdly=
<f57v.X.3;H>	otardaly=
<f57v.X.4;H>	otodarod=

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.X.1;U>	olkchdal=
<f57v.X.2;U>	oparairdly=
<f57v.X.3;U>	otardaly=
<f57v.X.4;U>	otodaram=

John Grove:

<f57v.X.1;V>	olkchdal=
<f57v.X.2;V>	oparairdly=
<f57v.X.3;V>	otardaly=
<f57v.X.4;V>	otodaram=

Unit: "Labels: four directions?"

Last edited on 1998-12-08 09:59:55 by stolfi

"V" transcription by John Grove
"U" trancription by J.Stolfi from unidentified scan

northeast (towards the "otodaram" nymph)

Takeshi Takahashi:

<f57v.Y.1;H>	oralaror=
<f57v.Y.2;H>	okchoy=
<f57v.Y.3;H>	ocfhor. okear=
<f57v.Y.4;H>	ackaldy=

Jorge Stolfi:

<f57v.Y.1;U>	ara*arar=
<f57v.Y.2;U>	okaly=
<f57v.Y.3;U>	ocfhor. okear=
<f57v.Y.4;U>	alkaldy=

John Grove:

<f57v.Y.1;V>	aralarar=
<f57v.Y.2;V>	okeely=
<f57v.Y.3;V>	ofhal. okear=
<f57v.Y.4;V>	alkaldy=